(John 4:23 KJV) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
I too like many people are aware that there is even corruptions in the Church, the Ministry of God these days as well worldwide too. So what else is new?
(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. 33 I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
I too like many people are aware that there is even corruption in the Ministry of God these days as well and that too man persons also wrongfully do nothing about it too. They deny the truth of God "Those who sin rebuke before all".
(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
(1 Tim 5:24 KJV) Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.
Micah 3:11 - The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money:
yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.
Luke 16:13 - No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon
Luke 16:11 - If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
2 Corinthians 8:9 - For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
1 Timothy 6:9 - But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
1 Timothy 6:17 - Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
Proverbs 13:7 - There is that maketh himself rich, yet hath nothing: there is that maketh himself poor, yet hath great riches
Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
Isaiah 8:20 "If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
Ecclesiastes 12:13 and 15... "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep his commandments: for this is the WHOLE DUTY of man.
For God shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil"
and yet some persons still next try to wrongfully justify their or others ongoing sins by wrongfully saying
God will complete the good work he has begun (Philippians 1:6)
God is strong in my weakness (2 Corinthians 12:9-10)
Christ keeps me safe, so that the evil one cannot touch me (1 John 5:18)
Two supposed truths I hear people, dispensationalists, ostriches who deny what the Bible rather says often say back to me when confronted with the fact a supposed Christian Bother is doing evil still
a: I know about his or her faults but God is doing a work in him, her and he who started it will finnish it till the day of redemtion..
b: I am no worse certainly than the other bad preachers..
They all still do need to Repent, to do more than jusy trying your best to stop doing the things you shouldn't be doing. There is also still no such thing as a little bit pregant whn it comes to our continueing to sin.
A verse for all of us to think about.
I John 2:4 and 5 "He that saith, I know him and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him."
Any review of the alleged misappropriations of funds even in Churches needs to start by reviewing all of the churches firstly of all denominations now too, and it also would include the circumstances by which the funds were collected, even a Baotist or a Bretheren, Pentecostal church, and a review is neded even of the method of appeal used to collect the money by all of the churches. And these reviews would necessity require full review of the false use of the pressure of "tithing" put upon the givers, contrary to voluntarily, cheerful giving, including a review of any and all preachers stating falsely now that "tithing" itself is still (Biblically )mandatory , applicable commandment by God today even. Even today thesome Pentecostal church falsely insists that to become a member of their church one has to sign an agreement that they would "tithe" to their church. There is no such Biblical requirement in any part of the New Testament as well And thus even here misleading persons with prosperity tithing appeal to pressure people into giving. Next the review needs to look at how the collected tithing money was used directly as well. Firstly it was the priests themselves who were charged with stealing the tithes in the Old Testament book of Malachi. Secondly very clearly in both the Old and especially in the New testament Church Tithing was always clearly, undeniable associated with helping directly the local and distant poor people. (Gal 2:10 KJV) Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do. ( But most evangelical chruches do not do so still today, and wrongfully too) Note 1/7 of the tithe was to be given to the local poor people by the priests now too. Too many chrcuhes falsey church itself basically, wrongfully, falsely does not help any poor people today, not even in their own church, or in the city of LaSalle and do note this that both the Trinity Pentecostal church and many others they had falsely justified their immoral approach, their lack of compassion for the poor, and their not fulfilling the clear Biblical obligations of using the tithes to help the poor, sick , needy persons by them both stating that all of the poor and sick persons were sick due to their own personal sins. This also itself is mostly an unacceptable lie, a distortion of reality. Two of the most despicable false teachings found even elsewhere but especially in the Pentecostal- evangelical circles today included that it is God's will that we all be financially prosperous, They neglect the conditional part as your soul prosperteth.. and to them how you got it did not matter too, and they had in error now also stated that it was, is a sin to be found poor and/or sick.. but these teachings are despicable because these self centered materistic, Christians should have known better.. and theyalso wrongfuly use poverty, sickness as an excuse to ostracize, kick out falsely the sick and needy, sick persons even from their own churches.. the too often bad pastors often ask the poor and sick people who cannot give to them rather to leave.. God does not overlook any of this wrong doings and he has his own way of punishing such bad persons. We had such bad persons teaching these lies around even at the time of Christ.
I rightfully would rather see a sermon from now being personally practiced over merely preached to others.. I also would rather see you apply the verse before anyone quotes, preaches them to others too.
King David was one of the most anointed prophets because he had such an intimate relationship with God. He was a man after God’s own heart, hearing conversations between the Father and Son. However, he too had a weakness and next fell because he also gave heed to a seducing spirit.He also had the weakness of making bad friends his advisers.Over 55 percent of evangelical pastors have committed adultery now too in North America... and it is no wonder they wrongfully tend to counsel divorce too. In regard to King David. He indeed was a man seeking to put God first in his life but he also personally sinned. The Old Testament King David was also a person occupied often with dealing with his enemies. (Psa 102:8 KJV) "Mine enemies reproach me all the day; and they that are mad against me are sworn against me." The charismatic personality of David was illustrated by the fact that followers were attracted to him, followers who were willing to fight and die for him even in the dire straits. Some they became the most faithful of David's followers, providing the closest personal security to King David as his palace guard too, Joab included. But all of his followers were not admirable as the Bible record also shows. King David ever retained and acted upon the knowledge that God was real and near. King David's life illustrated his faith and obedience to his God. But his followers some of them they acted as the secular men who took no thought that God had any part in their day's activities but that it was up to him to take action in accordance with their own natural. even sinful uman inclinations. Not only was Joab next guilty of murder, he had also violated the peace initiative arranged by King David. As we study the life of David, we next also do even see that David eventually collaborated in evil doing with Joab, for King David had shown false partiality and he wrongfully did not bring Joab immediately to justice for his act of murder. King David inadequately too merely spoke words of condemnation against Joab saying, "May the Lord repay the evildoer according to his evil". " So David reigned over all Israel; and he administered justice and righteousness for all his people. And Joab son of Zeruiah was over the army". (1st Chronicles 18:14f) Why did David appoint Joab, whom he thought to be an evil man, to be head over the army of Israel? There is no indication that Joab had repented of his evil doing. Was Joab appointed commander simply because David had promised the position to the one who captured Jerusalem? Did the fact that Joab was David's nephew, the son of David's sister, make Joab a more desirable candidate? " It clearly appears that even Kind David had erred in letting worldly men have the influence of close association with him, especially the sons of Zeruiah. "It appears at times that even King David allowed worldly political aspirations to wronfully choke out God's truths from his consideration. At times his soul smothered his spirit and prevented spiritual communication to and from his God. (Hebrews 4:12) How similar were the spiritual problems of David to problems in our lives today." How you do it is as important as what you do now as well..
Even God's favorites can still go to far in their own personal acts. King David also was a person who was quick to condemn the sins of others too he had wrongfully initially had neglected his own too. (2 Sam 12:5 KJV) "And David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: For King David himself had decided that he must get rid of Uriah so he could wrongfully take Bathsheba to wife. He wrote a note to Joab enclosing it in an official message pouch. And he sent the pouch to Joab on the battlefield by the hand of Uriah when Uriah departed back to the battlefield. The note said, "Place Uriah in the front line of the fiercest battle and withdraw from him, so that he may be struck down". Uriah died in the battle which Joab then put him. Joab when he reported the war with the Ammonites to David he added at the end of his casualty report, "Your servant Uriah the Hittite is dead also." King David replied, "Do not let this thing displease you, for the sword devours one as well as another; make your battle against the city stronger and overthrow it." Thus David tried to trivialize the conspiracy and murder. David knew perfectly well that he had initiated a conspiracy with Joab to bring about the death of Uriah. Undoubtedly King David also knew that Joab could be held responsible as a conspirator for the death of Uriah. The scripture clearly says, "But the thing David had done was evil in the sight of the Lord." (2nd Samuel 11) "It is I who anointed you king over Israel and it is I who delivered you from the hand of Saul. I also gave you your master's house and your master's wives into your care, and I gave you the house of Israel and the house of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would have added to you many more things like these. Why have you despised the word of the Lord by doing evil in his sight? You have struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword, have taken his wife to be your wife, and have killed him with the sword of the sons of Ammon. Now therefore, the sword shall never depart from your house, because you have despised me and have taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your wife. ...Behold I will raise up evil against you from your own household; I will even take your wives before your eyes, and give them to your companion, and he shall be with your wives in broad daylight. Indeed, you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel, and under the sun." 2nd Samuel 12
Today, while we may heap some justifiable blame even on our leaders, our prime minister, but we must still all also take continual stock of our own lives and activities. Is it possible, or RATHER MORE LIKELY that we too now are somewhere SIMILAR down the road toward sin and do await our own REAL NEGATIVE PERSONAL CONSEQUENCES NEXT TOO? Yes even Idleness, the Investigation of others, gossiping, our Ignoring God's word, and his warnings to us, they all also can lead to the commission of OUR OWN sin.
(Lev 19:15 KJV) Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
So, our question gets asked again, when God forgives sin, are there no consequences? http://www.joyfulministry.com/davidt.htm We are reminded that King Saul had not learned to deal with,to quickly confess his own sins as well and he paid real negative consequences for them next too. (1 Sam 15:23 KJV) For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
"Sin has consequences and personal effects next on many. He that covers his sin shall not prosper. The way of the transgressor is hard. Sin has effects. Don't ever kid yourself -- sin is never worth it. It is just too dangerous. Wrong patterns of abuse, exploitation and alienation have now too often even divided our own families as surely as the family of King David. "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted forgiving one another, as God in Christ has forgiven you. Be imitators of God and live in love as Christ loved us. Loving only those who are easy to love, or onl those who serve us still however, contradicts the heart of the gospel of Jesus Christ.. Let's all learn our lessons even from Biblical history too so we won't need to repeat them. Let's learn also from King David that though personal forgiveness for sin was, is extended, for many negative consequences still follow those who ddid not stop on the road to sin and did not exercise God's grace to overcome sins. " (Gal 6:7 KJV) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.(Heb 12:15 KJV) Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;"Here is a fact I have clearly noticed, in real life the last 50 years as well, too many, most of the people who did the loudest, biggest complaining about the supposedly bad sinful acts of others they themselves were firstly now even doing the very same thing, and that was why they were so sensitive now about such supposed acts in others.
For the record I have already dealt with my sins and errors and set them straight too.
I met Jesus at the crossroads,
(Psa 91:7 KJV) A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and show him my salvation.
At our chapel Sunday school, we often used to sing this favorite chorus of mine
I met Jesus at the crossroads,
Where the two ways meet,
Satan, too was standing there,
And he said "Come this way
Lots and lots of pleasures,
I will give you today."
But I said " NO!!
There's Jesus here,
Just see what He offers me....
Down here my sins forgiven,
Up there a home in heaven
Praise God, That's the way for me!!"
Even though all the Sunday teachers to there where not perfect we sang some real great choruses there.
“Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mineenemies: thou anointest my head with oil: my cup runneth over” -Psalm 23 vs.5
Running over, running over *
My cup is full and running over*
Since the Lord loves me,
I'm as happy as can be! **
My cup*** is full and* running over.
Rise and Shine
(Sung to Rise and Shine)
CHORUS: (sung between each verse)
Oh, rise and shine and give Him the glory, glory,
Rise and shine and give Him the glory, glory,
Rise and shine and give Him the glory, glory,
Children of the Lord.
You Can't Get To Heaven
O you can't get to heaven, (o you can't get to heaven)
On roller skates, (on roller skates)
O you can't get to heaven, (o you can't get to heaven)
on roller ska-a-a-ates.
O you can't get to heaven on roller skates
you'll roll right past those pearly gates,
all my sins are washed away, I've been redeemed.
O you can't get to heaven, (echo)
In a big, fine car, (echo)
O you can't get to heaven (echo)
In a big fine car-a-a-ar.
O you can't get to heaven in a big, fine car
A big fine car can't drive that far
all my sins are washed away, I've been redeemed.
Old Noah, he built him, he built him an arky, arky,
Noah, he built him, he built him an arky, arky,
Built it out of birchy barky, barky
Children of the Lord.
The animals, they came in, they came in by twosies, twosies,
Animals, they came in, they came in by twosies, twosies,
Elephants and kangaroosies, roosies,
Children of the Lord.
It rained, it rained for forty daysies, daysies,
Rained, it rained for forty daysies, daysies,
Almost drove those children crazy, crazy,
Children of the Lord.
The sun came out and dried up the landy, landy,
Sun came out and dried up the landy, landy,
Everything was fine and dandy, dandy,
Children of the Lord.
When We All Get to Heaven
Sing the wondrous love of Jesus,
Sing His mercy and His grace;
In the mansions bright and blessed
He’ll prepare for us a place.
Refrain:
When we all get to heaven,
What a day of rejoicing that will be!
When we all see Jesus,
We’ll sing and shout the victory!
While we walk the pilgrim pathway,
Clouds will overspread the sky;
But when trav’ling days are over,
Not a shadow, not a sigh.
Let us then be true and faithful,
Trusting, serving every day;
Just one glimpse of Him in glory
Will the toils of life repay.
Onward to the prize before us!
Soon His beauty we’ll behold;
Soon the pearly gates will open;
We shall tread the streets of gold.
I'll Be a Sunbeam
Jesus wants me for a sunbeam,
To shine for Him each day;
In every way try to please Him,
At home, at school, at play.
Refrain:
A sunbeam, a sunbeam,
Jesus wants me for a sunbeam;
A sunbeam, a sunbeam,
I’ll be a sunbeam for Him.
Jesus wants me to be loving,
And kind to all I see;
Showing how pleasant and happy,
His little one can be.
I will ask Jesus to help me
To keep my heart from sin;
Ever reflecting His goodness,
And always shine for Him.
I’ll be a sunbeam for Jesus,
I can if I but try;
Serving Him moment by moment,
Then live for Him on high.
Jesus Bids Us Shine
Jesus bids us shine with a clear, pure light,
Like a little candle burning in the night;
In this world of darkness, we must shine,
You in your small corner, and I in mine.
Jesus bids us shine, first of all for Him;
Well He sees and knows it if our light is dim;
He looks down from heaven, sees us shine,
You in your small corner, and I in mine.
Jesus bids us shine, then, for all around,
Many kinds of darkness in this world abound:
Sin, and want, and sorrow—we must shine,
You in your small corner, and I in mine.
Safe in the Arms of Jesus
Safe in the arms of Jesus,
Safe on His gentle breast;
There by His love o’ershaded,
Sweetly my soul shall rest.
Hark! ’tis the voice of angels
Borne in a song to me,
Over the fields of glory,
Over the jasper sea.
Refrain:
Safe in the arms of Jesus,
Safe on His gentle breast;
There by His love o’ershaded,
Sweetly my soul shall rest.
Safe in the arms of Jesus,
Safe from corroding care,
Safe from the world’s temptations;
Sin cannot harm me there.
Free from the blight of sorrow,
Free from my doubts and fears;
Only a few more trials,
Only a few more tears!
Jesus, my heart’s dear Refuge,
Jesus has died for me;
Firm on the Rock of Ages
Ever my trust shall be.
Here let me wait with patience,
Wait till the night is o’er;
Wait till I see the morning
Break on the golden shore.
